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What am I doing wrong?
Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy. I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all.
Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?
Here are my questions specifically:
- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars,
restaurants, gyms
-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my
feelings
-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?
- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there?
- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?
- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY
Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.
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THE ANSWER:
Dear Pers-431649184:
I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament. Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it.
Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful!
So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!
So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.
Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful" as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.
By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.
With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way. Classic "pump and dump." I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of please, let me know.
19 comments:
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In all this the part I can't get past is the 'when you're 35 stick a fork in you'.
I should like to slap this man.
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this is simply disgusting!
From a tax perspective, his whole "depreciating asset" joke is totally wrong; if you have a lot of ordinary income, you want to purchase depreciating assets so you get the deduction
randomly fell on your blog. im in college and have taken business classes and what the man says is not unreasonable. technically, since she would depreciate and faster as time goes on, to "buy her" would be a really bad idea instead of a "lease" for a few years. furthremore, buying a depreciating asset would benefit you a little in a tax perspective, but the benefit of the tax deduction is no where near the benefit of leasing then selling then getting another. but since society has morals, ppl dont usually do that as often, and most good people wouldnt deserve that. altho, this girl did deserve that response.
I like this guy. The point is - people want to get married to people that they love because love makes the commitment a worthwhile investment. Marrying someone for looks as a trade for money is exactly what he said - a bad business deal. Sweetheart, find someone you love and who loves you or you will never be anything but a depreciating asset.
You need to stick a fork in him. At 35 you will be sexier, smarter and more valuable than this guy will ever know. I have found that at 40 I have way more offers than I ever had in my 20's. I think I am sexier, more confident and I don't mince words about what I want out of life. Secondly, the older you get the hotter the sex gets. So you find what you are looking for honey and good luck to you. Because while you are being honest about what you are looking for out of life, this guy is turning old, fat and bald with all his money and soon he will be searching for someone like you willing to pay for any type of arrangement he can get.
I'm just a simple traveler I don't make that much money, not just yet, but something I can tell this chick is that I was lost in eastern europe for two months and tell you one thing, there are more beautiful woman than I ever saw in my life, there aren't many men and if there are, don't compete with a guy that always had to scratch his back to get the night's lucky one( it's not that hard,they would even buy you drinks) why to spend the rest of your life with one pretty girl or stunning if you want, that even costs you, instead of just having little vacations, pay less enjoy more and probably meet a special someone.
I'm not saying it's totally impossible, just like winning the lotto, maybe easier but it'll take more time than you thought, learn to play your role, whatch a lot of movies about the subjet and bump into every guy that's wearing an Armany (I'm sure you could recognise them miles away)that's all, and never tell or give the slightest sign of what your plan is, cause you'd automatically become disposable, it'll take a week or two, maybe even years but the time would come, remember who's got the sugar.learn to play that's all.
Have you thought about modeling, I heard they make very good money, plus you could be famous, I don't know it's an idea hope it helps, good luck, from a lucky friend.(Don't date anyone that uses drugs, with all that money, it could get pretty nasty)
you are a shallow asshole. I hope you get cancer.
As a woman I find the response INSULTING. Most American men regardless of income in today DO NOT want to support a family. A woman who dreams of house, home, and children has to work two jobs along side her husband/mate while daycare raises her child. I congratulate this woman for putting herself out there looking for a man who can as she say be New York middle class or more and want to settle down with a marriage. She did NOT say she wanted a boyfriend to take care of her - but a husband and marriage in a solid union. - M.C.
Clever comment - your assets will depreciate while my money will appreciate. So he is saying rich men should not settle down with a woman because in 5 years, 10 years etc. her looks will depreciate. The answer is to go and upgrade to a new woman-child age 19 to ? every 5 years. That is labeling rich men superficial.
"As a woman I find the response INSULTING. Most American men regardless of income in today DO NOT want to support a family. A woman who dreams of house, home, and children has to work two jobs along side her husband/mate while daycare raises her child. I congratulate this woman for putting herself out there looking for a man who can as she say be New York middle class or more and want to settle down with a marriage. She did NOT say she wanted a boyfriend to take care of her - but a husband and marriage in a solid union. - M.C."
You find the response "insulting" but not the ad itself? Are you joking? The woman asks for nothing in a man but financial prospects offering only her "spectacular" beauty and you deem that OK. But when a man calls her out on it for its superficiality, you are insulted!!
The ad itself is "insulting" to men who the woman sees as nothing but a financial resource. The response being cold and calculating is what is called for in this circumstance and entirely appropriate. One actually hopes the woman is shocked by the response enough into looking at what beyond her beauty she may bring to a marriage that is an appreciating asset. Then maybe she will find the "solid union" you write of.
Try to see the whole picture.
"From a tax perspective, his whole "depreciating asset" joke is totally wrong; if you have a lot of ordinary income, you want to purchase depreciating assets so you get the deduction"
Go back to business school.
Financially speaking leasing provides different financial benefits including the FULL write off of the lease amount against ordinary income while depreciation is expensed against income based on an arbitrary tax schedule. If what you say were true than the ENTIRE equipment leasing industry wouldn't exist.
To all the people that posted a negative comment about the guy: He was being honest. The girl is basically saying she is for sale. She wasn't looking for a nice, caring, educated man, but a man that makes money. When prostitutes, beautiful ones, cost only 50 bucks in brazil/caribbean... and a couple hundred in the US, why would a man spend his half a million dollar salary for this particular prostitute. Please do tell...
To the girl: Make your own money. Loser.
Ilove him hes right...its not all about loks...You're uglier then those owman because of your personality
Wow, incredible response from this guy. He really does not at all understand what women bring to the table. I strongly urge him to read Anne Crittendon's "The Price of Motherhood" to get a clue. By the way, it's an actual economic analysis, not a theoretical one, m'dear. Do the entire world and women and children everywhere a big huge favor and grow up, mister.
I thought that guys response was Brilliant! He was coming from the same frame of mind that she was. I hope she thought about his advice and realized she is actually looking for someone desperate with a large income.
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